Have things gotten any better in the last two years?

I last tried an Ultraloq deadbolt over two years ago and it was an awful experience. I see there aren’t really any new models other than the Apple one and the one with the lever. Which is good, because maybe they have been working hard to make the existing models work better rather than reinventing the wheel.

What is the reliability like these days? Fingerprint reader, auto-lock, auto-unlock, remote access, door sensor, wireless connectivity, battery life… All the good stuff. Is it all solid now?

I just tried an Aqara lock and the thing is a disaster. They try to implement auto-lock but without a sensor, and it just isn’t reliable. Granted, this is a beta feature, but the lock has been out for over two years and I need to work reliably. It’s a must-have feature for me.

The Yale locks I am currently using have become impressively reliable, but lack a lot of the features. So with all the deals right now, this is a good time to upgrade. What’s the word on Ultraloq?

Also, is there any benefit to getting a model with wifi built in rather than one with a z-wave bridge? Other than the fact that you need an external bridge, aren’t they essentially the same with the exception that z-wave models have better battery life and probably better connectivity? You can still integrate with Google Assistant, Alexa, IFTTT and SmartThings just the same. Why would you get a wifi model over z-wave?

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Hey, RoyN. Happy Holidays.

I wouldn’t recommend it. Based on my own experience, between three units, all being Ultraloq U-Bolt Fingerprint + WIFI, they all seem to have the same unreliability issues. Either the motor stops working, or a failed finger print attempt just seems to cause the entire lock to deactivate, disabling the keypad; meaning you can only unlock via key or app.

I’m going to try and reach out to their customer support again, but I think after going through three units, and having them send me new motors - it might be time to write them off for now.

I appreciate the feedback and already had decided against trying this again. Especially when I saw how crippled the Ultraloq z-wave model is compared to the wifi version. Zwave model is missing a lot of the features that wifi has.

I’m just gonna upgrade to the new Yale lock with the fingerprint reader. The only thing missing from it, is anti-peep. For the life of me I cannot figure out why Yale refuses to implement this feature that exists on the vast majority of smart deadbolts. Seems like it should be very easy to add, even via a firmware update. Why not check that box which everyone else has already checked?

Funny you mention the lock deactivating. That was the last straw for me last time I tried Ultraloq.

If you decide to move on, give Yale a shot if you can live without the anti-peep. Every time I try moving on to something new, I come back to Yale.

Thanks for the Yale recommendation. I was able to snag a Schlage smartlock on sale on Cyber Monday but I’ve been too lazy to install it, and I’m still waiting on U-Tec’s customer support team to get back to me. No rush for me tho since I can return it until the end of January but Yale was my second choice as I usually go off NY Times Wirecutter recommendations. For what it’s worth, the NY Times Wirecutter also removed U-tec entirely from their reviews, which says a lot.

I’ve got a two-family household with tenants, so the lock randomly deactivating entirely after one failed touch attempt is absolutely annoying, and drives my anxiety up because I try my hardest to keep my tenants happy at all times. Fortunately, my spouse is the only one who keeps forgetting to stop using the touch pad at this point, but hearing her yell at me because she gets locked out is super stressful also hahahhahahaha.

Anyways, good luck with the Yale lock. Hopefully, U-Tec can get their locks together before the next time either of us have to replace our locks again (and U-Tecs website as it’s super glitchy/buggy with css issues).

The Schlage is very odd as their top pick because it lacks nearly every feature modern smart locks have. It’s pretty bare bones for a smart lock, but maybe that is what you want at a rental.

Right now Ultraloq is the only model I know of that has all the features I want. But the thing has to be reliable. I’ve got a similar problem to you. I have a dog walker that needs to be able to get into the house, if she can’t, my dog will starve and relieve herself in the house. If I’m out of town when that happens – big BIG problem.

Good luck with Schlage.

This is exactly why I was on defense with buying the Schlage and probably why I’m justifying my laziness with installing it. I think having been burnt by U-Tec three times now, I’ve just told myself that maybe the fingerprint technology isn’t there yet. Everybody in my household loves all the features U-Tec locks offer when it’s working, but having to replace locks annually with U-Tec is just exhausting and expensive along with the “might fail at any time” moments.

Now you got me second guessing the Schalge lock as it seems like I’m going back in to the past, and instead, I’m reconsidering the Yale Assure Lock 2 Touchscreen with Wi-Fi.

I have two Yale Assure locks (one original and one Assure 2) and I’m satisfied enough that after much consideration I’m upgrading the 2 with one that has a fingerprint reader, and moving my current Assure 2 over to the door that has the original Assure. I’ve had the original Assure lock for several years now and it is still going strong so they are built to last.

I’ve had three of the Ultraloq Bolt Fingerprint devices for about four months now.
They are very finicky with regard to alignment of the units components that are mounted on the door. Unlike my previous Nest-Yale locks, these units require about two of careful troubleshooting for each unit. I don’t know why, but the internal mechanism binds on itself. Unlike the Yale Locks I’ve previously used, these things take a long time to puzzle into a working installation.

The symptom that I saw again and again was that the lock would acknowledge my fingerprint and then attempt to unlock, but fail. Therefore, it would take three tries or using a key to unlock the lock. Consequently, the batteries took a beating. On the other side of operation, it would try to automatically lock the door and fail and simply report that the door lock had jammed. Turning the lock with a key didn’t reveal any binding problem.

At first, I thought it was the bolt hitting the strike plate. I carefully observed this and in some cases filed the strike plates to have a wider opening. But this didn’t resolve the problem.

What did solved the problem was simply fiddling with the alignment of the door mounted components over and over until something worked. I can’t explain why, but this is the case with all three doors.

During the six week troubleshooting period, my wife was quite frustrated with me. These locks made me look like an idiot. I cursed Google for obsoleting my Nest Security system and the very expensive Yale-Nest locks. I still curse them. But this is the challenge having a “smart” home.

Once that was sorted, the Ultra locks have been stable and reliable.

The absolute winning feature of these locks is that they self lock after 15 minutes. My wife taught me that men don’t have to think about locking doors, but women do. Knowing that every door that we forget to lock will lock itself in a few minutes, is a big comfort.

There are still a few little grumbles:

I don’t like that when we have a house sitter, I have to take them to every door to program their numeric code and their fingerprints. It would be much better if we could do that in the app.

Occasionally when unlocking the door from the inside, the mechanism is activated and fights turning the bolt. I have no idea why it does this. Most of the time, unlocking from the inside is super easy. But sometimes, it’s like I’m turning the bolt against the motor while the motor is engaged. The app doesn’t complain, but it is a worry.

Other than these nits, after the installation pains, the locks work well. The finger print ID is so fast and accurate, I never use my numeric code. My rechargeable LiPo AA batteries last about three months. This is acceptable for my home with three door locks, but it would be a real problem in an apartment building.

If I could figure out how to get the installation right the first time, I’d recommend these locks to anyone. The feature set is great. As they are today, I’d recommend them to smart home enthusiasts who are handy and inclined to work stuff out.

Good review, @Gary6
I hadn’t run across other comments about how finicky the UltraLoq units are about alignment, but I had the same experience. I eventually got it working, but had to really fuss with it. I didn’t know if that was typical for deadbolts.
Otherwise, my complaint is a persistent lack of support for the Matter standard. There is no integration at all of my Wi-Fi unit with the popular Home Assistant platform. The Z-Wave unit will integrate (and work locally, if I understand right), but Threads would be better. Matter and Threads support are the key protection against the obsolescence mentioned in this thread, because they work locally, without cloud dependency, and will continue to do so even after the manufacturers go out of business or discontinue their products or cease support for them.
Dear U-Tec, please add Matter support to my Wi-fi UltraLoq via a firmware update. :pray: